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		<title>By: Linda R. Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda R. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vixen -- yes indeed :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vixen &#8212; yes indeed :)</p>
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		<title>By: Linda R. Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensroads.com/shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-7026</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda R. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, isn&#039;t this interesting. :)

When I looked up sorrel, I got what I always knew, growing up, as dock leaves:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel

It looks like the California version and the version I know (but had no idea was sorrel until I looked it up) have the same basic beginnings but change at the &quot;order&quot; level. 

These plants were always in demand by kids as they helped to soothe stinging nettle stings. 

Gotcha on the shape/designator thing. I&#039;m familiar with true clover because it used to grow all over our lawn, along with real daisies. :)

Hm, here&#039;s a question for you. If I were to read a (not too scientific) book about California native species of flora and fauna, would you have any recommendations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, isn&#8217;t this interesting. :)</p>
<p>When I looked up sorrel, I got what I always knew, growing up, as dock leaves:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel</a></p>
<p>It looks like the California version and the version I know (but had no idea was sorrel until I looked it up) have the same basic beginnings but change at the &#8220;order&#8221; level. </p>
<p>These plants were always in demand by kids as they helped to soothe stinging nettle stings. </p>
<p>Gotcha on the shape/designator thing. I&#8217;m familiar with true clover because it used to grow all over our lawn, along with real daisies. :)</p>
<p>Hm, here&#8217;s a question for you. If I were to read a (not too scientific) book about California native species of flora and fauna, would you have any recommendations?</p>
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		<title>By: Vixen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a lovely plant. A bright distraction of color from the dreary weather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a lovely plant. A bright distraction of color from the dreary weather.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The flowers are decidedly the trumpet-shape (closed, in that photo) of sorrel, but common wood sorrel is often called (and sold as) &quot;shamrock&quot; because the leaves are the same shape:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamrock

Here&#039;s our little native form: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwood_sorrel

True clover is a legume (in the pea family) and has a different flower shape:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_clover

I love true clover, it smells so sweet (and tastes sweet! I sucked on the flowers, as a child), but I think of it as &quot;don&#039;t walk there, bees!&quot; :)

Commonly, though, it&#039;s also shamrock. Common names can be good catch-alls for a shape, for instance, many flowers sold as daisies are actually chrysanthemums or other similarly shaped flowers, and many &quot;buttercups&quot; aren&#039;t in the ranunculus family, as are our wild buttercups.

Vultures in the eastern hemisphere aren&#039;t closely related to those in the western hemisphere (which are more closely related to storks), and look at the Australian, American, and European robins! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flowers are decidedly the trumpet-shape (closed, in that photo) of sorrel, but common wood sorrel is often called (and sold as) &#8220;shamrock&#8221; because the leaves are the same shape:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamrock">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamrock</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s our little native form:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwood_sorrel">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwood_sorrel</a></p>
<p>True clover is a legume (in the pea family) and has a different flower shape:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_clover">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_clover</a></p>
<p>I love true clover, it smells so sweet (and tastes sweet! I sucked on the flowers, as a child), but I think of it as &#8220;don&#8217;t walk there, bees!&#8221; :)</p>
<p>Commonly, though, it&#8217;s also shamrock. Common names can be good catch-alls for a shape, for instance, many flowers sold as daisies are actually chrysanthemums or other similarly shaped flowers, and many &#8220;buttercups&#8221; aren&#8217;t in the ranunculus family, as are our wild buttercups.</p>
<p>Vultures in the eastern hemisphere aren&#8217;t closely related to those in the western hemisphere (which are more closely related to storks), and look at the Australian, American, and European robins! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Linda R. Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensroads.com/shamrock/comment-page-1/#comment-7015</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda R. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFAIK it&#039;s actually shamrock--the Irish clover--from an Irish-American friend&#039;s garden (i.e. not wild). :)

Ah, oxalis! Yes, I know how rampant that one was. Someone had planted it in my old garden and it was a constant struggle to make it not take over everything else. 

Wheeeee! It just started raining here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFAIK it&#8217;s actually shamrock&#8211;the Irish clover&#8211;from an Irish-American friend&#8217;s garden (i.e. not wild). :)</p>
<p>Ah, oxalis! Yes, I know how rampant that one was. Someone had planted it in my old garden and it was a constant struggle to make it not take over everything else. </p>
<p>Wheeeee! It just started raining here!</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious what kind of sorrel that is. Where did you find it? (We have both beautiful native forms here, and the bright yellow one that&#039;s called sourgrass or bermuda buttercup, and is clearly not that, but which is alien and invasive.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious what kind of sorrel that is. Where did you find it? (We have both beautiful native forms here, and the bright yellow one that&#8217;s called sourgrass or bermuda buttercup, and is clearly not that, but which is alien and invasive.)</p>
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